I don’t agree with Chris on everything, but on the topic of Christianized fascism, I believe he’s on point. Frightening to see where we’re headed as a country, and I believe there’s no stopping it at this point.
“Ceremonial prayer is but a recognition that, since this Nation was founded and until the present day, many Americans deem that their own existence must be understood by precepts far beyond the authority of government,
I’m just going to come out and say it; Trump is going to fuck this world and there ain’t nothing we can do about it.
That sounds like I’m being hyperbolic, but I’m not. I believe with every ounce of belief I can muster that this could be the end of everything.
I could be wrong; I probably am. As stated in a previous post, I’m not that bright. Still, I have a notion of where I think this administration is going to take us and it’s not going to be pleasant.
Here’s what I think, and please feel free to save this post so you can throw it back at me someday to show me how wrong I was, which I hope is the case.
I believe Steve Bannon when he said that he wants to tear down the system. If you look at what this administration is doing now, and how quickly they’re doing it, it appears that destabilizing the United States and the rest of the planet is the main agenda.
I argued with people during the election who advocated for a disruption of the system, whether that came from Bernie Sanders or from Trump, and my argument is, if the system comes crashing down, there’s no telling what’s going to take its place. I think some people believe that we could replace the current system with one that’s fair and more geared toward the people rather than the corporations. That could happen, but I think it’s a long shot if the U.S. is in shambles.
What is more likely to happen is that if America collapses, and the world collapses, people will be so desperate for a savior, that it’s almost a given that a far right, Christian dictator would rise up with promises of salvation. The people would embrace this savior with open arms, constitution be damned.
I only know of Bannon what I’ve read, but seeing how much this administration is pandering to the religious, this could be the end game. Get us to a point of utter desparation and deliver unto us a savior wrapped in the flag and carrying a bible.
Hell, there are plenty of people who want that right now.
To be fair, Trump is a monster, but he seems only concerned about his ego – his brand – and not much else. He can’t give a speech that doesn’t wind up being about him. No, Trump is a tool, and Bannon is the carpenter.
So how could we get there?
From the looks of things as they stand now, we could either get into a war with China, Iran or Mexico or all three. Could be trade wars or wars with bombs. I’m curious if our economy could sustain, say a trade war with China and a physical war with Iran at the same time. And you can bet if things get that dicey for us, they’re likely to get dicey for the rest of the planet as well because if America is to busy dealing with our problems, who’s keeping watch on everything else going on? Who’s going to intervene if Russia decides to make a massive land grab? Who’s going police tensions between a nuclear India and a nuclear Pakistan? Who’s going to stop North Korea from taking South Korea?
I saw an interview on Bill Maher’s show with Richard Haass who is the president of the Council on Foreign Relations. He said something to the effect that the systems that are in place have been working more or less to keep things sane (relatively) for decades, and to undo those systems would be catastrophic.
It looks like this administration is trying to undo those systems.
As I said, I probably don’t know what I’m talking about, and everything’s probably going to be fine.
Still, it might be a good time to stock up on canned goods, water and survival gear just to be safe.
As I listen to President Obama give interviews during this last week of his presidency, he’s taking credit for a lot of things: improving the economy, creating jobs, and giving healthcare to millions of Americans are among his accomplishments.
But according to at least one person, Obama is responsible for creating more atheists, which if true, is another reason to like the guy.
An article from a Russian website, Pravda Report, claims that Christianity is under attack and that Obama is responsible for people abandoning the faith. Professor of the Department of Missiology at Saint Tikhon’s Orthodox University, Alexander Dvorkin, seems to be the only person quoted in the article, and he delivers one easily debunked argument for Christian persecution after another.
Here, I’ll show you.
“One of the reasons for the growing amount of atheists in the United States is said to be Obama’s policy to transform schools and universities from secular into openly anti-Christian institutions. In many US schools, reading the Bible or the public wearing of crosses may entail penalties . . .”
. . . “In any case, it is already impossible to openly criticize homosexuality.”
. . . “Christian holidays are being erased, and it is considered politically incorrect to congratulate one another on Christmas – one should congratulate each other on the so-called “holiday season.”
Nope, again. See how easy that was?
If you’re an atheist, you’ve no doubt been hearing the same fallacious arguments coming from the religious for awhile. It’s almost like they want to be persecuted.
Oh, that’s right, they do. Because if they’re being persecuted, then the Bible is right because it said they’d be persecuted.
Lastly, Dvorkin takes the predictable shot at Hollywood because of the “Occult vision” in Hollywood films that portray Christians as “narrow-minded cranks at best, or malevolent villains at worst.”
I’ve watched a lot of movies and I can’t think of one off the top of my head in which an identifiable Christian character is portrayed as a crank or malevolent villain. In fact, the religious affiliation of most characters in films is unknown or not revealed. Maybe I’m just watching the wrong films, or maybe this guy is making shit up.
And I’ll tell you something else – There’s an awful lot of people going to see these movies with the “occult vision” and they ain’t all atheists. Plenty of Christians go to the movies too.
The only place where Dvorkin gets it somewhat right is when he claims that Christianity is oppressed in the Middle East. About that he says, “. . .they simply kill Christians.” I’m not up to speed on everything that goes on in the Middle East, but I don’t think it’s open season on Christians everywhere there. I could be wrong, or this guy could be making shit up.
Despite the whining, Christians have it pretty good here in America, and throughout much of the world. Believe me, no one – not even us Atheist Pigs – are out to get them. And I can’t help it that people in large numbers are becoming wise to the charade of religion because that’s what’s happening.
Society isn’t conspiring against Christians or any other religion, but rather, people are asking questions, debating and waking up to the fact that religion isn’t the path to enlightenment or knowledge it purports to be. And they’re waking up to the fact that at the end of the day, all religion has to offer is unsubstantiated claims and untestable evidence.
And that’s just not good enough anymore.
I admit that I find the idea of an atheist church to be funny. When I was a kid, I hated my parents dragging me to church every Sunday. And when I was a Christian adult, I went because that’s what Christians did.
However, the idea of going to church now – even an atheist one – seems odd and out of place, but then these churches aren’t for me because I’m blessed to be anti-social. And much in the way I dreaded going to church every Sunday when I was a kid, I now dread interacting with other members of the human species.
I’ve come to find out this is one of the many things that makes me abnormal.
For the rest of humanity, though, being social with other members of the species is integral to mental wellbeing and social standing. Back in the day, towns were often built around the church. The church was the focal point of social life. If you weren’t working on the farm, you were participating in some church activity. Church life is integral to many communities that I suspect that a lot of people attend services and events more for the social aspect than for the act of “worship.”
Losing your faith can have a severe impact on your social life, especially if you before relied on church for social interactions. You might find that your church friends no longer want anything to do with you, and you might find yourself isolated. And believe it or not, some who lose faith miss the rituals associated with church services.
An article coming out of Salt Lake City talks about a church for non-believers dubbed the Sunday Assembly, which offers nonbelievers a “churchlike service that offers music, readings and community for those who don’t belong to the state’s dominant religion, Mormonism or other faith groups.” The church’s motto is: Live better, help often, wonder more.
I’m pretty cynical and dislike most things, which I’ve come to learn is another one of the many things that makes me abnormal. But I think it’s important for atheists, secularists and “nones” to get together and socialize. If you’re in an area with few unbelievers, it’s easy to get lonely and isolated. There are online communities, but those are increasingly becoming more toxic and fractured. I suspect that much of that has to do with people not interacting face-to-face.
While I have no plans to attend any service with events like “[a] band playing the 1980s hit song “Walking on Sunshine” while attendees sang along and batted beach balls around the room,” because that sounds dreadful.
However, I believe It’s important that non-believers who want that church experience have a place where they can go to socialize, share baby recipes, and figure out how best to destroy Christmas once and for all.
On second thought, if plotting to get rid of Christmas is involved, I might be on board.
Tis the season when a lot of people get uptight over those who say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
Their thinking (I think) is that those who say Happy Holidays are doing so because they’re evil non-believers who hate Christmas, Jesus and/or Christians.
We hear every year that there’s a war on Christmas. And it’s common to hear that it’s the atheists who are perpetrating said war.
Even Donald Trump said at a rally, that we can start saying Merry Christmas again, to much applause.
I don’t know about you, but I think it’s always been safe for people to say Merry Christmas. I hear it every year and never once have I chided anyone for saying it, much in the same way I don’t get my undies in a bunch when someone says god bless you after a sneeze.
Actually, that one does bother me because I think it’s wrong to single out that sole bodily function for comment. I mean, no one bothers to acknowledge my coughs, my burps or my farts, which, if we’re being honest, could use a blessing especially after I’ve eaten cheese.
But I digress.
It’s true that Christianity has dominated the public square for a long, long time. It’s only recently that people started to wake up to the fact that America is a diverse country with many beliefs and traditions. Many people who who hold agnostic or of other beliefs celebrate Christmas. One could argue that Christmas is a Christian holiday, and that if you’re not Christian, then don’t celebrate it. One could also argue that if you’re not Jewish or Muslim, then you don’t have to participate in their holidays either.
The problem with that, as I see it, is that Christmas is – for better or worse – embedded in American culture. Just turn on the TV anytime after Thanksgiving and you’ll see commercial after commercial offering Christmas sales. And speaking of TV, how many Christmas specials run between Thanksgiving and December 25th? I mean, we literally have a channel that runs a movie called A Christmas Story for a full, god-damned 24-hours. And can you imagine the kind of shit a kid who doesn’t believe in Santa gets at school?
And because it’s so commercialized, companies want to maximize the number of people celebrating the holiday because it means more dollars into their coffers. This is why you’ll see stores saying Happy Holidays, and advertising Holiday Specials rather than Christmas specials.
It’s really not about those evil atheists hating on Jesus. It’s totally about the companies trying to get as many people shopping in their stores as they can.
True, there are plenty of secular organizations who complain when a nativity scene is on public property. Some, such as the Satanic Temple, call for an inclusive approach. If you get your nativity scene, then they get their satanic display. That seems fair. That might be what some Christians see as the war on Christmas, but frankly, the time for keeping religious displays on private property and church property is long overdue.
Whether the Christians like it or not, Christmas is everyone’s holiday now, and that’s not the fault of the atheists. That’s the fault of the corporations and the consumer culture.
I can’t speak for all atheists, but I don’t want to destroy Christmas. I’m not on a crusade to ban Santa, nativity scenes, yule logs or any of the trappings. And I’m not opposed to anyone saying Merry Christmas.
So, this Christmas season, say whatever the hell you want. And next time someone tells you that it’s the atheists who are waging a war on Christmas, you can tell them that, no, it’s the corporations – and they won that war a long time ago.
Billboards put up by American Atheists in Monroe, Louisiana, urging people to skip church this Christmas season were taken down only two hours after being put up, after residents complained according to KNOE 8 News.
As usual, Christians got their undies in a knot for someone daring to put forth a different viewpoint.
One resident said
“I praise God that there was so much stirred up about it that it was taken down.”
Seriously, if God was so offended, why didn’t he stop the billboards from going up in the first place?
To be fair, it is the Bible Belt, and there probably isn’t a diversity of opinion. Still, the message isn’t offensive and, if these people’s faith can’t stand up to something as innocuous as suggesting that people skip church, then it isn’t much of a faith, is it?
Nick Fish, program director for American Atheists said,
“They need to get over themselves and realize this is a country with a lot of viewpoints, and they’re not the only ones with a view on this.”
To me, there are so many red flags regarding the incoming Trump administration that it’s tough to pick one over which to freak out.
One issue that isn’t going to get a lot of coverage in mainstream media is Trump’s Christian problem.
Andy by Christian problem, I don’t mean Trump himself. I read more than a few people who say he’s actually an atheist or at least doesn’t care much about religion. And to be fair, it does seem that Trump worships himself first, (which might make him a Satanist if anything) and money second.
My worry stems from the fact that Trump has little if any experience in governing. I think he’s going to rely more on advisors and people in his cabinet for the nuts and bolts of his administration’s policies, than have past presidents. This is where the Christian problem comes into the picture.
I think by now, we’re all aware of Mike Pence’s stance on religion, but if not, he’s described as a born again evangelical Catholic, whatever the hell that is.
And much like the pervert who can’t keep it in his pants, evangelicals have a tough time keeping their religion to themselves.
Which brings us to Trump’s pick to lead the Department of Education – billionaire Christian, Betsy DeVos.
DeVos is a Calvinist, who, depending on which side of the bed Pence gets out of on a particular morning, may or may not be going to hell.
According to an article via POLITICO, DeVos, said that she wants to reform the whole education system to bring “greater Kingdom gain,” which is evangelical-speak for, “we want to teach your kids about Jesus.”
She went on to say,
The church — which ought to be in our view far more central to the life of the community — has been displaced by the public school as the center for activity, the center for what goes on in the community.
It is certainly our hope that churches would continue, no matter what the environment — whether there’s government funding some day through tax credits, or vouchers, or some other mechanism or whatever it may be — that more and more churches will get more and more active and engaged in education,” he said. “We just can think of no better way to rebuild our families and our communities.
To be fair, DeVos hasn’t come out and said that she wants to introduce a Jesus-focused curriculum into the public school system. That could be because those pesky founding fathers had some goofy ideas about keeping church and state separate. However, what she does want is to make it easier for people to send their kids to private schools where they can get a “higher quality education”, which may or may not include Jesus. Spoiler alert: it includes Jesus.
This is exactly the kind of thing that has me worried about what’s coming down the road. My gut tells me that Trump has a few big ideas of what he wants to accomplish as president – an overall picture if you will – and I think most of it is on the economic front. Think, bringing back jobs and making America great.
Trump probably doesn’t care much personally about “christianizing” the schools or our country, but I think there’s plenty in his administration who do. And if DeVos says that Jesus will help make America great again, then that’s probably good enough for Trump.
And make no mistake, he’ll have plenty of support on this front, too. I hear plenty of people, and read plenty of letters in the papers saying that what’s needed is for America to “get back to god.”
I keep hearing people say that we need to give this administration a chance, and to be sure, I have no choice. This is what we have, and most of us are going to have to sit back and watch the show.
If you haven’t done so, now might be a good time to donate to one of the many organizations who will take up the fight to keep church and state separate and who will fight for a secular government, because I think we’re going to need it now more than ever.